>2view Italian indie Minecraft SMP

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Are you tired of watching Italian indie films with better 3D animation than Nijisanji? Well, we have the perfect solution for you – join our Minecraft SMP! Our server is so wild and crazy that even the creepers are doing the cha-cha slide. Plus, rumor has it that if you join, you’ll be blessed with unlimited diamonds and a pet llama that tells dad jokes. Don’t miss out on the chance to be part of the most epic Minecraft adventure of your life! Join now and let the madness begin!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	93/800	Uptime:	98%
Rating:	4.7 / 5
Chaos Orbs Controlled:	8	Elemental Temples Cleansed:	4
Endless Legions Commanded:	46	Celestial Events Witnessed:	3
Godly Talismans Bestowed:	15	World-Altering Spells Cast:	2
Enchantments Applied:	63	Zeus’s Thunderbolts Captured:	3
Sunfire Helmets Forged:	2	Bizarre Potions Brewed:	9

Random Fact: Surprising But True: The last rainstorm ended with a double rainbow and a pot of gold—it’s now a community treasure.

Crafty Critter Minecraft Server

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Welcome to our Minecraft server, where the mobs are in charge and they’ve made me an animal! That’s right, I used to be a regular player like you, but now I’m a cow wandering around the spawn area, mooing my heart out.

But don’t worry, being turned into an animal is just the beginning of the craziness on this server. We have giant chickens that lay diamond eggs, creepers that explode into confetti instead of destroying your builds, and villagers that trade in rare enchanted items for just a handful of dirt.

Join us for epic quests where you have to rescue the Ender Dragon from a group of rebellious sheep, or participate in our annual pig racing competition where the winner gets a lifetime supply of bacon. And if you’re lucky, you might even stumble upon the secret disco party hidden deep underground, where the skeletons are the best dancers in town.

So come on down to our wacky Minecraft server and experience a world where anything is possible, even being turned into an animal. Who knows, you might just find yourself enjoying the new moo-tation!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	103/1000	Uptime:	99%
Rating:	4.0 / 5
Meteorites Collected:	3	Mystic Runes Engraved:	3
Buildings Constructed:	23	Fairy Circles Danced In:	7
Mythical Beasts Vanquished:	0	Lost Souls Rescued:	5
Vanishing Structures Built:	2	Wizards Turned into Frogs:	2
Nightmare Scenarios Survived:	2	Ancient Dragons Awakened:	2

Random Fact: Legendary Lore: Every time an ancient relic is unearthed, a lost city somewhere trembles in fear.

Never Category Theorists Minecraft SMP

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Are you tired of being limited by your IQ and brain damage? Do you yearn for a world where you can explore abstract algebra and category theory without judgment? Look no further, because our Minecraft SMP is the perfect place for you!

Join us on our server where brain damage is celebrated, and low IQ is a badge of honor. We have created a world where even the most mathematically challenged can thrive and excel in the realm of categories and morphisms.

Forget about being a broke high school teacher, on our server, you can be a Topos theorist without the need for a 150 IQ or rich parents. So what are you waiting for? Join us now and let’s explore the beauty of abstract mathematics together! Who needs a PhD when you have a pickaxe and a dream?

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	92/700	Uptime:	98%
Rating:	4.5 / 5
Arcane Towers Raised:	1	Ancient Guardians Awoken:	3
Mysterious Portals Opened:	19	Shadow Cloaks Sewn:	4
Epic Quests Completed:	22	Endless Mazes Solved:	4
Gnome Villages Protected:	8	Enchanted Weapons Reforged:	2
Immortal Anvils Forged:	9	Epic Battles Fought:	7

Random Fact: Insider Scoop: Whispering shadows are known to hum lullabies when no one’s listening.

Sledge’s Sacred Minecraft Server

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Are you tired of boring old Minecraft servers with no pizzazz? Well, look no further because our server is run by none other than Dr. Justin Sledge, the renowned expert on ancient religion! Join us as we uncover the hidden secrets of Minecraft temples and shrines, with Dr. Sledge leading the way with his extensive knowledge and expertise.

But that’s not all – rumor has it that Dr. Sledge once discovered a secret underground temple in Minecraft that was guarded by a pack of wild wolves. Legend has it that whoever can find this temple will be granted unlimited diamonds and emeralds for eternity. Are you up for the challenge?

So why wait? Join our server today and embark on a wild adventure with Dr. Sledge as your guide. Who knows what ancient treasures and mysteries await you in the world of Minecraft!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	108/500	Uptime:	95%
Rating:	4.6 / 5
Pirate Ships Captured:	0	Lost Cities Unearthed:	3
Teleportation Mishaps:	2	Frozen Fortresses Conquered:	1
Ender Chest Mysteries Uncovered:	1	Meteorite Armor Created:	17
Herobrine Sightings:	9	Phantom Horses Ridden:	3
Galactic Jellyfish Caught:	2	Celestial Gardens Planted:	2

Random Fact: Whimsical Lore: A player once befriended a cloud that now follows them around, raining only when they need a cool down.

/Fat/ – Expansion & Edit – Drawthread Minecraft SMP

anthropomorphic animals, Archive, artists, Beginners, booru, bump limit, deliveries, drawing improvement, drawthread, edit, Expansion, fat, female, inflation, Loli, Male, Minecraft, Monster Girl, phat flan, progress thread, Requests, Resources, shota, smp, Spam, spooky, weight gain

Welcome to our Minecraft SMP server, where we embrace the phat life with our Fat, Expansion & Edit DrawthreadPhat Flan edition! Join us for some outrageous fun and crazy shenanigans as we fulfill all your spooky fat/weight gain/inflation/other expansion themed requests. Whether you want to see human, monster girls, anthropomorphic animals, or fictional creatures blowing up like balloons, we’ve got you covered!

Our server is filled with talented artists who are ready to bring your wildest expansion fantasies to life. From drawing to editing, we’ve got it all. And if you’re a beginner looking to start drawing fatties, we have resources and guides to help you get started on your phat journey.

But remember, on our server, we have a zero tolerance policy for loli/shota/underaged characters. Ain’t nobody got time for that nonsense. So come join us, bump the thread, and let’s make some epic phat art together! Just be sure to delete your bumps and ignore the alogs. And if you see any spam, report it and move on like the expansion pro you are.

So what are you waiting for? Join us on our Minecraft SMP server and let’s get phat together! Just don’t ask for a break or to wait “weeks/months/years” because we’re all about that instant gratification here. See you in the phat dimension!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	107/800	Uptime:	99%
Rating:	4.1 / 5
Cursed Artifacts Uncovered:	5	Dungeon Sieges Launched:	9
Elemental Forces Harnessed:	10	Phantom Blocks Placed:	9
Reality Distortions Fixed:	1	Time-Traveling Monkeys Met:	3
Spectral Entities Defeated:	1	Magical Familiars Summoned:	4
Invisible Pathways Walked:	7	Celestial Crowns Worn:	3

Random Fact: Lovely Truth: Someone discovered a tree that grows candy—it’s now a favorite hangout for adventurers with a sweet tooth.

Pixel Pals – Minecraft server

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Looking for a Minecraft server that’s more lit than a Creeper explosion? Look no further than our server, where you can join the epic adventures of Nova Aokami, Arial Yuriko, Estella Starfall, Furi Ferntail, Kamiko Rinona, Scarlett Flameheart, and more!

We’ve got more drama than a herd of Endermen fighting over a block of obsidian. Join Amaya Whisper, Bri At Cookiebox, Mom At Cookiebox, Kanna Yanagi, PixelLink Lida Oriana, Nyanami Ruru & Rumi, Relia Lace, Umi Kyoku, and Valentine for some seriously wacky shenanigans.

Our server is so wild, it makes the Nether look like a peaceful stroll through a flower biome. With karaoke nights, epic battles, and more drama than a soap opera in the End dimension, you’ll never have a dull moment on our server.

Join now before the Ender Dragon starts a revolution and takes over the server! Trust us, you won’t want to miss out on this craziness.

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	109/400	Uptime:	96%
Rating:	4.4 / 5
Vanishing Structures Built:	4	Soul Swords Wielded:	3
Elemental Temples Cleansed:	1	Mythical Swords Crafted:	57
Mythical Relics Collected:	17	Celestial Gardens Planted:	4
Cursed Swords Broken:	3	Secret Guilds Joined:	3
Heroic Oaths Sworn:	24	Duplicated Mobs Battled:	5

Random Fact: Did you hear? A player once rode a unicorn straight into a dimension hop, and they haven’t stopped laughing since.

Dimeless Aim Minecraft SMP

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Welcome to the most chaotic and hilarious Minecraft SMP you’ll ever encounter! Why join? Well, let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time, a player joined our server and accidentally turned their entire house into a giant potato. True story.

But wait, there’s more! We have a secret underground society of llamas who run the economy and trade in rare items like enchanted diamond pickaxes and golden carrots. And don’t even get me started on the time we had a massive dance party on top of a giant slime block tower.

Join us if you dare to experience the madness and mayhem that is our Minecraft SMP. Just remember, anything can happen and nothing is off limits. So come on, what are you waiting for? Join us and let the chaos begin!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	96/900	Uptime:	99%
Rating:	4.8 / 5
Phantom Knights Defeated:	3	Players Killed by Monsters:	294
Tesseract Cubes Discovered:	3	Blood-Forged Axes Created:	17
Dragons Tamed:	6	Endless Mazes Conquered:	2
Wilderness Tamed:	18	Eldritch Beasts Summoned:	2
Dragon Eggs Found:	7137	Ender Pearl Glitches:	4

Random Fact: Mythical Moment: A single drop of lava from the Phoenix Feather’s nest can forge an indestructible sword.

What is the IP for SeeReax Minecraft Server?

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SeeReax is a talented and versatile musician hailing from Los Angeles, California. With a unique blend of electronic, hip-hop, and pop influences, SeeReax creates captivating and innovative music that pushes boundaries and captivates listeners. Drawing inspiration from a wide range of genres and artists, SeeReax brings a fresh and original sound to the music scene. Keep an eye out for this rising star as they continue to make waves in the industry.

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	108/200	Uptime:	100%
Rating:	4.0 / 5
Endless Mazes Conquered:	1	Chaos Gates Opened:	1
Eldritch Medallions Worn:	8	God-Tier Weapons Forged:	37
Titan Hearts Harvested:	5	Eldritch Scrolls Read:	6
Titanic Relics Retrieved:	5	Omnipotent Charms Created:	4
Shattered Realms Restored:	0	Forbidden Doors Opened:	2

Random Fact: Adorable But True: Someone enchanted a broom to sweep by itself—it now has a habit of tidying up wherever it goes.

Axisland Minecraft server

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Axisland is a server where the main game mode is anarchy, offering complete freedom of action: build, destroy and survive without restrictions. However, despite the anarchy mode, there are basic rules that ensure fair play and comfort for all participants. Violating these rules, such as using cheats or toxic behavior, will result in penalties. In addition, the server regularly hosts unique events that add variety to the gameplay, offering players the opportunity to compete for rewards and influence the development of the world.

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	100/600	Uptime:	99%
Rating:	4.5 / 5
Epic Bosses Defeated:	0	Ether Blades Crafted:	13
Meteorite Armor Created:	23	Mythical Quests Completed:	19
Reality Warps Survived:	0	Endless Staircases Climbed:	3
Phoenix Feathers Found:	13	Void Gems Collected:	28
Corrupted Chunks Fixed:	1	Astral Staffs Crafted:	7

Random Fact: Wholesome Lore: A hidden village was discovered where everyone bakes cookies—they give them out for free to travelers.

PixelCraft Mania Minecraft Server

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Are you tired of boring old Minecraft servers with the same old Anti-Spam systems? Well, look no further because our server has the most EPIC Anti-Spam system you’ve ever seen! It’s so good, even the creepers are jealous!

Join our server and experience a world where the pigs ride on top of the cows, the chickens do the moonwalk, and the zombies break out into a thriller dance every time they see you! Trust us, you’ve never seen Minecraft like this before.

But that’s not all! Our server is also home to the legendary Diamond Chicken, rumored to lay diamond eggs instead of boring old regular ones. And if you’re lucky, you might even stumble upon the elusive Nether Llama, who spits out fireballs instead of saliva. It’s like a fireworks show, but with more danger!

So what are you waiting for? Join our server now and prepare for a Minecraft experience like no other. Just be sure to watch out for the exploding sheep…they tend to get a little too excited sometimes.

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	93/1000	Uptime:	98%
Rating:	4.8 / 5
Legendary Items Repaired:	5	Dragon Eggs Found:	8281
Dungeon Sieges Launched:	6	Shadow Cloaks Sewn:	1
Undead Armies Raised:	0	Mystic Runes Engraved:	7
Crystal Wands Charged:	14	Quantum Bards Serenaded:	4
Chimeras Created:	3	Spells Gone Horribly Wrong:	3

Random Fact: Sweet Lore: A player once tamed a unicorn by offering it a sugar cube—it now follows them everywhere, leaving a trail of sparkles.

That’s My Goat! Minecraft SMP

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Welcome to the most chaotic Minecraft SMP you’ll ever experience! Join us if you’re ready to defend your goats with your life because in this server, goats are the ultimate currency. That’s right, forget about diamonds and emeralds, it’s all about those adorable bleating creatures.

But beware, there’s a notorious goat thief on the loose who will stop at nothing to steal your precious goats. Rumor has it that he rides a llama dressed in full ninja gear and can teleport through dimensions. Will you be able to outsmart him and protect your goat empire?

If you’re looking for a server where the stakes are high and the goats are even higher, then come join us and show off your goat-taming skills. Just remember, in this world, it’s not survival of the fittest, it’s survival of the goatiest!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	102/900	Uptime:	99%
Rating:	4.9 / 5
Mythical Creatures Tamed:	4	Ender Dragon Reincarnations:	2
Haunted Mines Explored:	2	Gorgon Shields Crafted:	2
Glorious Feasts Held:	18	Dragons Tamed:	1
Warlock Amulets Crafted:	16	Corrupted Chunks Fixed:	2
Vanishing Structures Built:	5	Titanic Battles Fought:	20

Random Fact: Adorable Lore: A player found a tiny dragon that likes to sleep in their pocket—it’s the perfect pocket warmer!

Blocky Trump Minecraft Server

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Are you tired of boring old Minecraft servers that take themselves too seriously? Well, look no further because our server is the perfect escape from reality! Join us and witness epic battles between Steve and Herobrine as they fight for control of the server. And if Trump wins, our resident prophet Allan Lichtman will surely have some wild explanation ready to go. Don’t miss out on the chaos and join us now for a truly unpredictable Minecraft experience!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	110/700	Uptime:	96%
Rating:	5.0 / 5
Cursed Gauntlets Discovered:	4	Omnipotent Charms Created:	4
Eldritch Beasts Summoned:	0	Dragons Tamed:	7
Mineshafts Explored:	5	Spells Gone Horribly Wrong:	7
Galactic Jellyfish Caught:	4	Dimensional Collapse Prevented:	1
Dragonfire Shields Forged:	7	Secret Passages Found:	7

Random Fact: Adorable Lore: A player found a secret door that leads to a world of stuffed animals—it’s a cuddly paradise.

Work Minecraft SMP $90k/yr Maker

90kyr, aspirations, budgeting, career, family, Financial goals, financial independence, Financial Stability, future planning, income, Investments, Leave, maker, Minecraft, MONEY, parenting, Pregnancy, salary, savings, smp, stay at home, success, Support, work, work-life balance

Hey there, fellow Minecrafters! Are you tired of mining for diamonds and trading with villagers just to make ends meet? Well, look no further because our Minecraft SMP is the answer to all your financial woes!

Join us on our server where the virtual economy is booming and you can make millions of virtual dollars in no time! Forget about real-life responsibilities like work and bills, because on our server, you can become a virtual millionaire in just a few clicks.

Imagine a world where your in-game wife is pregnant with virtual babies and you need to make enough virtual money to support your virtual family. Sounds crazy, right? Well, on our server, anything is possible!

So come join us and start your journey to financial freedom in the most outrageous and hilarious way possible. Who knows, maybe you’ll even become the richest player on the server and achieve your dream of having your virtual wife stay home and raise your virtual kids forever. The possibilities are endless in our wacky Minecraft SMP!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	100/700	Uptime:	95%
Rating:	4.6 / 5
Warlock Pacts Sealed:	2	Rune Stones Activated:	8
Endless Mazes Conquered:	4	Magical Familiars Summoned:	2
Enchanted Teapots Collected:	19	Witch’s Brew Drunk:	8
Epic Quests Completed:	15	Dragon Hoards Looted:	2
Tesseract Cubes Discovered:	3	Infinity Stones Found:	6

Random Fact: Fun Fact: An immortal potion once caused a player to grow flowers every time they sneezed!

Crafty Creeper Minecraft Server

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Are you tired of boring old Minecraft servers with no pizzazz? Well, have we got the server for you! Join our server for a wild ride filled with crazy adventures and hilarious antics.

Picture this: you log on to our server and immediately find yourself in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. But don’t worry, because you have a secret weapon – a giant rubber chicken that shoots lasers! Take down those zombies in style and show them who’s boss.

But that’s not all! Our server is also home to a magical land filled with talking animals and flying pigs. Want to ride a unicorn through a rainbow? You can do that here! Want to challenge a dragon to a dance-off? Go for it! The possibilities are endless on our server.

So why wait? Join now and experience the wackiest, craziest Minecraft server you’ve ever seen. Trust us, you won’t regret it!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	94/700	Uptime:	100%
Rating:	4.6 / 5
Nether Portals Gone Wrong:	3	Reality-Warping Charms Crafted:	5
Celestial Events Witnessed:	5	Living Shadows Defeated:	4
Magical Frogs Kissed:	1	Hidden Passages Discovered:	6
Portal Loops Escaped:	3	Cursed Swords Broken:	2
Legendary Titles Earned:	1	Infinity Stones Found:	6

Random Fact: Adorable Lore: A player found a tiny dragon that likes to sleep in their pocket—it’s the perfect pocket warmer!

> Men Prefer Natural Minecraft SMP

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Are you tired of playing on boring old Minecraft servers where everything is just too normal? Well, do we have the server for you! Join us on our wild and wacky Minecraft SMP where the men prefer natural…natural disasters, that is!

We’ve got volcanoes erupting, tornadoes tearing through the landscape, and earthquakes shaking things up. It’s a chaotic mess, but hey, at least it’s never boring! Plus, you never know when a random celebrity like Sydney Sweeny might drop by and start spouting cryptic messages about nature.

So come join us on our server and experience the true meaning of “men prefer natural” in a way you never thought possible. Just be sure to bring your sense of humor and a healthy dose of insanity!

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	103/900	Uptime:	96%
Rating:	4.2 / 5
Astral Projections Made:	3	Alternate Realities Explored:	4
Dragons Adopted as Pets:	1	Eternal Flames Captured:	6
Lunar Eclipses Witnessed:	1	Crystal Wands Charged:	19
Omnipotent Charms Created:	1	Wailing Winds Heard:	4
Chaos Orbs Controlled:	22	Phantom Horses Ridden:	3

Random Fact: Insider Secret: Players who solve unsolvable puzzles are said to unlock the ability to talk to fish.

Gone to Craft Minecraft Server

BELIEF, CHANGE, Conversion, Craft, decision, Departure, doubt, FAITH, LEAVING, leaving site, Minecraft, personal growth, Religion, religious conversion, Server, shi’ism, Spiritual Journey, transformation, TRANSITION, uncertainty, uncertainty about faith

If you leave our server, it’s probably because you’ve been abducted by a band of rogue llamas who are trying to convert you to the ways of shi’ism. But don’t worry, we have a secret underground bunker filled with diamond armor and enchanted weapons to protect you from their llama magic. So come join us and help us fight off the llama invasion while building epic structures and trolling your friends with sneaky traps. Who knew Minecraft could be this wild?

Updated October 21, 2024

Players:	94/700	Uptime:	100%
Rating:	5.0 / 5
Magical Ponies Rescued:	7	Shadow Wolves Tamed:	1
Magical Beanstalks Grown:	1	Cursed Statues Activated:	2
Witch’s Brew Drunk:	8	Epic Shields Constructed:	12
Goblin Markets Raided:	9	Astral Orbs Gathered:	16
Ethereal Couriers Hired:	3	Alien Abductions:	1

Random Fact: True Story: Someone actually managed to craft a god-killer bow using only cursed artifacts—talk about a paradox!